K-8 Curriculum Board

New board posted - Tim at Peace Hill Press 23:17 Jan 18 (0)

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that was supposed to say forces us to grow! nt - stephanie 19:27 Jan 18 (0)

Change really forces us to ! I still can't post a message, but registered long ago. How long has it been taking to get an email? Thanks so much!nt - stephanie 19:26 Jan 18 (3)

Did you look in your spam folder? I received mine w/in seconds, but it did land there. nt - momof7 19:55 Jan 18 (2)
- Re: Did you look in your spam folder? I received mine w/in seconds, but it did land there. nt - stephanie 20:36 Jan 18 (0)
- Thanks so much momof7..you are ALWAYS such a help to me! It was there. nt - stephanie 20:35 Jan 18 (0)

Drat, I STILL can't get in. I was really hoping for a free book!! nt - 3lilreds in NC 19:01 Jan 18 (1)

All the free books are gone, there are 589 members. nt - Trivium Academy 20:13 Jan 18 (0)

I think the new forum/board may have crashed the site for awhile, but it's up now. So head on over! Exciting new goodies over there! nt - MamaPapa 18:43 Jan 18 (6)

I was on the new boards and even posted there, but then I left and I have gotten "The requested URL /forums/index.php was not found on this server." ever since (nt) - AngieW in Texas 19:30 Jan 18 (3)
- Re: I was on the new boards and even posted there, but then I left and I have gotten "The requested URL /forums/index.php was not found on this server." ever since (nt) - Bob Wise 19:52 Jan 18 (0)
- Same here. I have no clue what is going on. nt - Daisy 19:37 Jan 18 (1)
  - I've been trying the new boards every few minutes and about 5 minutes ago they came back up for me (nt) - AngieW in Texas 19:44 Jan 18 (0)
Re: I think the new forum/board may have crashed the site for awhile, but it's up now. So head on over! Exciting new goodies over there! nt - MamaPapa 18:43 Jan 18 (1)
- Oh, bother, now this site is doing funky things. So sorry for the double posts! nt - MamaPapa 18:44 Jan 18 (0)

Looks like the new forum is up and running again! nt - MamaPapa 18:41 Jan 18 (0)

So is the New Forum stuck b/c the server is just slammed or what? nt - sandraDumas 17:29 Jan 18 (0)

I started a weekly report thread on the new forum... m - AudreyTN 16:12 Jan 18 (2)

It is working for some and not for others. nt - Trivium Academy 16:38 Jan 18 (0)
Nope . says URL NOT FOUNd. 8-( - captuhura 16:23 Jan 18 (0)

After 5 yrs, time for a new board name for new board...Happy Grace. nt - MamaPapa 16:06 Jan 18 (1)

oooh, maybe i should change my name too! hmmmmm nt - Johanna 16:45 Jan 18 (0)

Is the new WTM board (the Forum thing) down, or is it me? (nt) - Melora in NC 15:39 Jan 18 (3)

What Forum thing???.... :-((( - Jenny in Atl 15:47 Jan 18 (2)
- It was (very briefly, unless it Is just me) a new WTM board. There is (or was) a link below, posted by SWB. (nt) - Melora in NC 15:52 Jan 18 (1)
  - Re: It was (very briefly, unless it Is just me) a new WTM board. There is (or was) a link below, posted by SWB. (nt) - captuhura 15:57 Jan 18 (0)

Heather @Peacehill Press-I can't get activation. I've been waiting an hour. Please help! - Karie 15:02 Jan 18 (3)

I never got an email either. I just went to the login page and tried with the info I set up. I worked. HTHs. nt - Patricia in WA 15:11 Jan 18 (2)
- Sorry! I just saw your post below. I have not tired posting. nt - Patricia in WA 15:13 Jan 18 (1)
  - Should be *tried* and I just tried and I can't post. Off to email them. Thanks. nt - Patricia in WA 15:16 Jan 18 (0)

MLK Day - Alice 14:00 Jan 18 (2)

We are going to watch "I Have a Dream" on YouTube and discuss civil rights and racial issues....If you Google "Martin Luther King Preschool," tons of ideas will come up.(nt) - Tami 16:46 Jan 18 (0)
I am just going to read the book "My Brother Martin" to my DD(4). It is pretty long, but that's all we are going to do. - Allen Academy 15:04 Jan 18 (0)

BJU Science -4th gr. Is this a half-year course (or could it be?) TIA nt - Rhondabee 13:30 Jan 18 (1)

Yes, the current 4th grade science is half a year (one semester) nt - Melissa in CA 18:21 Jan 18 (0)

Update........(I post this here now, and when I have more news I'll post on the new board) - momof7 13:25 Jan 18 (3)

Praying...(nt) - Karen K. in Tx 15:19 Jan 18 (0)
Thanks for the update....praying... nt - SLB 15:11 Jan 18 (0)
Prayers for everyone here. Take care of yourself, too! nt - Rhondabee 13:29 Jan 18 (0)

Lial's Algebra books??....What do I purchase?? ....Need help!! - GAMomof5 12:36 Jan 18 (4)

I did the same thing...m - Patricia in WA 12:48 Jan 18 (3)
- Thanks, Patricia...love your blog...a couple more ??? for you... - GAMomof5 13:00 Jan 18 (1)
  - Some answers...m - Patricia in WA 13:22 Jan 18 (0)
- Sorry...my space bar sticks sometimes and I did not catch it a few times. :-) nt - Patricia in WA 12:49 Jan 18 (0)

Right Start or Math U See - Jessica 12:30 Jan 18 (9)

Right Start or Math U See plus intro. - Tara from Florida 20:53 Jan 18 (0)
Re: Right Start or Math U See - captuhura 15:05 Jan 18 (0)
Re: Right Start or Math U See - Sheralyn 13:12 Jan 18 (1)
- Oh, and he's learning A LOT with RS too!! (nt) - Sheralyn 13:14 Jan 18 (0)
Re: Right Start or Math U See - GAMomof5 12:51 Jan 18 (0)
My ds4 likes Right Start (m) - King Alfred Academy 12:51 Jan 18 (0)
I chose RS for my dd... - Lisa in the UP of MI 12:49 Jan 18 (2)
- About SWR... (I know not the right thread, but..) - KIN 13:04 Jan 18 (1)
  - I belong to the group already, but... - Lisa in the UP of Mi 13:31 Jan 18 (0)

When did they change the math-writing-numbers rule? - Kate in Arabia 12:09 Jan 18 (14)

Weird -- I learned it the way you did (Kate)... never knew it was British! (m) - erica 19:10 Jan 18 (0)
I also learned it as the decimal point... and Lial's BCM teaches it this way also -nt - Kathie in VA 16:37 Jan 18 (0)
It has always been the rule in the U.S. ITA with Daisy: the "and" is a decimal point. nt - Ellie 16:32 Jan 18 (0)
The AND is British. It's the way I learned! nt. - ~Rachel~ 13:49 Jan 18 (2)
- Well now that explains it. Thanks! I would just point out the difference to your son and use what you feel comfortable with. :-) nt - Patricia in WA 14:04 Jan 18 (1)
  - The advantage of no and is that DS wont balk at writing it because it is SHORTER ;) nt. - ~Rachel~ 14:47 Jan 18 (0)
I was also taught that it represents the decimal point. nt - awanama 13:40 Jan 18 (0)
British vs. American English (nt) - Myrtle 13:26 Jan 18 (0)
British vs. American English (nt) - Myrtle 13:26 Jan 18 (0)
Sorry to break it to you, but so was I. "And" is for the decimal...m - Patricia in WA 12:58 Jan 18 (1)
- This is how I learned it too!! nt - KIN 13:05 Jan 18 (0)
I was also always taught that the "and" was for the decimal point only. (nt) - angela in ohio 12:30 Jan 18 (0)
I was always taught "and" was the decimal point. (example inside) nt - Daisy 12:21 Jan 18 (1)
- Me too! nt. - jubilee 14:39 Jan 18 (0)

New forums! - Susan Wise Bauer 11:48 Jan 18 (36)

Change must be in the air for most boards, everyone seems to be - Jenileigh 22:57 Jan 18 (0)
Me neither (nt) - Hannah 22:53 Jan 18 (0)
Nothing here either nt - Chris in CA 17:42 Jan 18 (0)
Nothing here either nt - Chris in CA 17:42 Jan 18 (0)
URL not found here (nt) - Laura in China 17:02 Jan 18 (0)
No fair, I can't get on ! - Chadam 15:38 Jan 18 (0)
whooohooo!! How will we know if we get a free book? :) nt - Colleen in NS 15:17 Jan 18 (1)
- I was wondering the same thing. nt - jg_puppy 15:33 Jan 18 (0)
HELP!!! Url NOT FOUND!!! - captuhura 15:06 Jan 18 (1)
- I can't get in either . . .Bmmmer - Nancy in Oh 15:19 Jan 18 (0)
I love it!!!!! nt - Chris in PA 14:26 Jan 18 (0)
I like them! My email never came either. I just went to the log in page to try and it worked. :-) nt - Patricia in WA 14:13 Jan 18 (1)
- I was able to log in, but not post. I'm still waiting for my email confirmation! nt - Karie 14:26 Jan 18 (0)
It says Page Not Active for me. Bummer. nt - Night Elf 13:46 Jan 18 (1)
- Oops, I meant Page Cannot Be Found. I don't know what made me type Not Active. LOL nt - Night Elf 13:47 Jan 18 (0)
Just registered, hope to get an email soon...nt - Busy Bee 13:43 Jan 18 (0)
What a treat, they look great! Thank you!! (nt) - Teresa in OR 13:30 Jan 18 (0)
How long are y'all having to wait for the activation e-mail? Not very patient here (10 min so far)...nt - ali in Oregon 13:18 Jan 18 (7)
- Okay I'm in now. Thanks! nt - ali in Oregon 13:40 Jan 18 (4)
  - And I'm still NOT in! What's the deal? And I did email the webmaster, but no response there, either..... nt - Regena in KY 13:43 Jan 18 (3)
    - Regena--I responded to your email and sent another activation email. - Heather 14:19 Jan 18 (2)
      - I never got an email either, and emailed the - Mom2GirlsTX 15:39 Jan 18 (1)
        
        Did you check you spam/junk mail folder? nt - siloam 15:56 Jan 18 (0)
- It should come immediately. If not, email your username to webmaster@peacehillpress.com. Also, add webmaster@peacehillpress.com to your email program's safe list. - Heather 13:21 Jan 18 (1)
  - Ditto. Mine went to my junk e-mail box. nt. - Lisa in the UP of MI 13:38 Jan 18 (0)
Okay, I know that I'm hopelessly old, and computer illiterate, and stupid, but...(m) - Regena in KY 13:08 Jan 18 (1)
- Okay, maybe I'm just still "awaiting activation".... nt - Regena in KY 13:10 Jan 18 (0)
They look very nice!! nt - Heather in VA 12:21 Jan 18 (0)
Looks like Vbulletin, love it!! THANK YOU! nt - siloam 12:19 Jan 18 (0)
For those of you who can't get in... - Susan Wise Bauer 12:11 Jan 18 (0)
Re: New forums! - Alicia in FL 12:10 Jan 18 (0)
Worked for me. nt - Sara R 11:57 Jan 18 (0)
I can't get in either - jg_puppy 11:52 Jan 18 (1)
- I got in - jg_puppy 12:22 Jan 18 (0)
Ah! I really would like a new book but the forum link is not working! Thanks. - sandra Dumas 11:50 Jan 18 (1)
- So can I count as the first? LOL Okay - sandraDumas 11:56 Jan 18 (0)

Did anyone make the Viking bread from the AG? Ours... - Chris in VA 11:41 Jan 18 (0)

What would suggest to a mom with a 5th and 7th grader next year - Jill 11:37 Jan 18 (0)

Trivium Academy...What do you use now for grammar? - Rhonda in WA 11:15 Jan 18 (4)

Re: grammar? - Trivium Academy 11:29 Jan 18 (3)
- I am glad you posted this. My ds needs to write to learn and I had not thought of that in regards to FLL. nt - sandraDumas 14:06 Jan 18 (1)
  - Same as my dd, glad it helps! :) nt - Trivium Academy 14:10 Jan 18 (0)
- Thank you. I am looking at adding something to FLL. - Rhonda in WA 11:59 Jan 18 (0)

More on Latin Prep... (m) - ~Rachel~ 11:11 Jan 18 (2)

Thanks! nt. - ~Rachel~ 12:38 Jan 18 (0)
You don't need the workbooks - they are just extra practice. nt - Heather in VA 12:26 Jan 18 (0)

From a creationist viewpoint.... - Janee'TX 10:41 Jan 18 (2)

Yep! Found it! Thank you very much and I bookmarked that site! (nm) - Janee'TX 11:14 Jan 18 (0)
Answers in Genesis . . . - Momto5girls 10:46 Jan 18 (0)

Anyone here use Live and Learn Lapbooks? Do they come with a study guide like HOAC? nt - siloam 10:33 Jan 18 (4)

I have only used a couple of them - Tina in WA 10:53 Jan 18 (2)
- Thanks! That is exactly what I need to know... - siloam 10:59 Jan 18 (1)
  - Did you know that HOAC now has answer keys for most of their lapbooks? - Tina in WA 11:40 Jan 18 (0)
Oh and I am looking at the Civil War lapbook. nt - siloam 10:34 Jan 18 (0)

Do you correct your dc's misspelled words during dictation? - amy 10:30 Jan 18 (1)

Right away nt - one l michele 10:42 Jan 18 (0)

How much do you pay/charge for tutoring? - sandra Dumas 10:25 Jan 18 (5)

I don't tutor math, but my rate for Latin and Great Books is $40/hr. I mostly teach multi-family classes. (nt) - Plaid Dad 14:50 Jan 18 (0)
My husband.... - Gretchen 12:06 Jan 18 (0)
I got $30-$40 per hour, but it is hard to charge friends that much. (I am a certified math teacher.) nt - WTMindy 11:12 Jan 18 (0)
Don't feel bad about charging money for your services/skills. I suggest $20 - $30/hour for math tutoring...nt - Beth in SW Washington 10:37 Jan 18 (0)
I forgot to say- there are two girls doing the same program but she's hoping to catch one up a bit. nt - Sandra Dumas 10:25 Jan 18 (0)

Anyone use EG for 2nd grade? - SharoninOhio 10:22 Jan 18 (0)

Does CLE and ACE ever have sales (when)? nt - dairy mom 9:43 Jan 18 (2)

Not that I'm aware of. CLE sells seconds at their store, but doesn't advertise them otherwise. nt - GVA 11:26 Jan 18 (0)
I'm trying to sell CLE Reading grades 1-3 if you need that. nm - LNC 10:45 Jan 18 (0)

Homeschool tips and tricks - Lisawa 9:23 Jan 18 (2)

I did mine! :o) I just... - Tina in WA 10:41 Jan 18 (1)
- Me too! - Cornerstone Classical 15:06 Jan 18 (0)

Written Narrations - what do you do about your dc's mistakes? (M) - one l michele 8:43 Jan 18 (8)

Was the assignment given with instructions? Did they require rewriting? He is young. Put this paper away (m) - Tammyla 10:10 Jan 18 (1)
- We were working on written narrations. (M) - on e l michele 10:44 Jan 18 (0)
Along with what Jessica said (m) - Mom2legomaniacs 9:21 Jan 18 (1)
- Excellent points to ponder, thanks. nt - one l michele 9:31 Jan 18 (0)
Praise him today, teach him tomorrow. - Trivium Academy 8:47 Jan 18 (3)
- See, this is where I feel (M) - one l michele 9:28 Jan 18 (2)
  - More practice would probably help solidify the concepts for him. - Trivium Academy 9:43 Jan 18 (1)
    - Thank you for the links, I'll look at them this weekend when I plan for next week. nt - one l michele 10:45 Jan 18 (0)

Tina in WA or anyone: Any recommendations for lapbooks from HOAC before I place my order today? Any you have really enjoyed or not enjoyed? nt - Sue G in PA 8:29 Jan 18 (3)

My kids... - Tina in WA 11:25 Jan 18 (0)
My dd has enjoyed all we have done... - siloam 9:40 Jan 18 (1)
- OH OH, we will be doing Rocks and Minerals soon! I can't wait! :o) nm - Tina in WA 10:54 Jan 18 (0)

Anyone use Spelling Workout D? - Jana in AZ 8:26 Jan 18 (3)

Re: Anyone use Spelling Workout D? - Narrow Gate Academy 10:55 Jan 18 (0)
You can see the inside of the TM at ChristianBook.com (link inside) - Trivium Academy 8:38 Jan 18 (0)
My 4th grader (non-nat speller) does well with SWOD and I would guess...(m) - Sue G in PA 8:31 Jan 18 (0)

poetry memorization link - list of poems with links to text - katilac 8:21 Jan 18 (2)

Thanks for posting this! (nt) - Hannah 9:12 Jan 18 (1)
- Ditto! nt - melhouse 11:56 Jan 18 (0)

What is the difference between the 2 Value sets for Chalk dust and the Traditional set? - Gamom3 7:57 Jan 18 (2)

Here you go... - Laura in VA 9:33 Jan 18 (1)
- Loving the Pre-Alg traditional set here. The dvd's are fantastic! My ds 12 is hooked! nt - Beth in SW Washington 10:40 Jan 18 (0)

help finding home organizer information online... - susie in tx 7:53 Jan 18 (6)

It was probably Jill in OK, aka the Crib Chick. (m) - 3lilreds in NC 9:36 Jan 18 (5)
- Wow, you've got a good memory! :o) (m) - Jill, OK 9:52 Jan 18 (4)
  - How funny, I was going to come on today to track down this link also (m) - WABeth 10:42 Jan 18 (1)
    - Thanks. :o) nt - Jill, OK 11:07 Jan 18 (0)
  - yes, it was you (m) - susie in tx 10:34 Jan 18 (1)
    - Oh, hey...no worries. Happy organizing! ;o) - Jill, OK 10:41 Jan 18 (0)

Math question: Going from BJU 6 to ...... Chalkdust ? Videotext? - mom2boys 7:49 Jan 18 (3)

I know of several students skipping BJU's 7th math and going on to pre-algebra. (m) - Melissa in CA 8:50 Jan 18 (2)
- I was wondering the same thing nt - Quiver0f10 11:43 Jan 18 (1)
  - We did 6 last year, and are doing Pre-Alg this year.... - Rhondabee 13:36 Jan 18 (0)

Has anyone heard from Momof7 since her Jan. 14 post about the trials they were undergoing as a family? nt - SLB 7:46 Jan 18 (0)

Read-alouds for ancients for 2nd and K (m) - Amy in VA 7:44 Jan 18 (3)

We loved Mary Pope Osborne's six book series on the Odyssey. - Chris in VA 11:54 Jan 18 (0)
Off the top of my head... - ali in Oregon 8:05 Jan 18 (1)
- This is why I love this board. I get the best ideas from here... - hs abroad 9:09 Jan 18 (0)

Momof7 ... Regarding your maths comments below - mom2boys 7:31 Jan 18 (0)

Post Your Weekly Updates Here! - Closeacademy 7:15 Jan 18 (18)

My second week of posting a report! - Cornerstone Classical 15:08 Jan 18 (0)
Ours is up! - Lori C, Texas 13:46 Jan 18 (0)
Here's ours... - Narrow Gate Academy 12:54 Jan 18 (0)
I actually posted mine on time! (link) - King Alfred Academy 12:42 Jan 18 (0)
finally... - susie in tx 12:29 Jan 18 (1)
- actually, now it's up - susie in tx 14:37 Jan 18 (0)
Ours... - Dawn E 11:28 Jan 18 (0)
What!!!!??? Friday already? :-) I guess I better get going, eh? nt - WTMindy 10:07 Jan 18 (1)
- Here it is.... - WTMindy 10:40 Jan 18 (0)
Mine's up! - Amy loves Bud 9:35 Jan 18 (1)
- Aww...::sniff, sniff::...the torn-up copy of Goodnight, Moon...the bouncy contraption...that fuzzy little head! You're making me wish...well, that you lived close enough so that I could borrow your baby for a day. Or maybe an hour. ;o) (Here's hoping she ups her 'Sleeping Grade', lol). nt - Jill, OK 9:56 Jan 18 (0)
Here's ours... - Jill, OK 9:26 Jan 18 (0)
Ugh. Ours is another interrupted week, but here it is: - Jenny in Florida 9:19 Jan 18 (0)
Here's my week with an 8yo and 5yo.... - Daisy 8:40 Jan 18 (0)
Here is mine! - Angela in TN 8:36 Jan 18 (2)
- LOL about the kids calling each other 'Bob'. :o) (It *is* a cool name...) nt - Jill, OK 10:01 Jan 18 (1)
  - Or, rather...calling *themselves* Bob. Which is even funnier. nt - Jill, OK 10:02 Jan 18 (0)
Here is my FIRST weekly report:) - momto5a's 7:31 Jan 18 (0)

If you use Christian Light Language Arts ...Do you add in another writing course?... - Pat in MI 7:09 Jan 18 (1)

I think the writing instruction, along with across the curriculum assignments along the way, is fine. However, we do add BJU here and there.(nt) - Tami 16:49 Jan 18 (0)

Charlotte Mason and Living Books Curriculum - Blessed with seven 7:06 Jan 18 (11)

Check out Sandi Queen's stuff at Queen Homeschool... - chiguirre 11:51 Jan 18 (0)
I have some thoughts, but am in a rush... I'll use your email addy inside to write you over the weekend, if that's okay. nt - Lisa in southern MD 10:16 Jan 18 (3)
- Aaaaaaww! I thought we'd ALL get to read your thoughts. :( lol (Another mom looking in to CM methods. )nt - K in MI 10:44 Jan 18 (1)
  - I'll come back & post it here ~ just didn't want it to get lost, as I won't get to it until the weekend! (Not that I'm an expert or anything, but I HAVE begun using this curriculum). :) nt - Lisa in southern MD 12:04 Jan 18 (0)
- Absolutely! I will look forward to your email...nt - Blessed with seven 10:36 Jan 18 (0)
Another option is My Father's World. (m) - 3lilreds in NC 9:49 Jan 18 (0)
I spent a weekend at a workshop put on by the author of LB... - Jeanne in MN 8:13 Jan 18 (1)
- Thank you Jeanne..that is helpful!! nt - Blessed with seven 8:45 Jan 18 (0)
Re: Charlotte Mason and Living Books Curriculum - Tami 7:35 Jan 18 (2)
- Also, A Child's Geography by Ann Voskamp. nt - profmom 7:40 Jan 18 (1)
  - I will definately get these books, waiting for the printed editions!..nt - Blessed with seven 7:42 Jan 18 (0)

How do you prioritize your dc's subjects? What subjects are most likely to (M) - one l michele 6:48 Jan 18 (9)

We school according to our schedule... - Narrow Gate Academy 12:13 Jan 18 (0)
Same here :) nt - Beth in SW Washington 10:42 Jan 18 (1)
- Sorry, this should go under Amy's post. We do Bible, Latin, Math, in that order....nt - Beth in SW Washington 10:45 Jan 18 (0)
We do school in this order... - Amy loves Bud 9:53 Jan 18 (0)
Latin and Math are most important - Chadam 9:47 Jan 18 (0)
We do math every day...even on a light day...(m) - Sue G in PA 8:27 Jan 18 (0)
Homeschool Lite here is Bible, Math, English and either unschoolish or unit study content.(nt) - Tami 7:37 Jan 18 (0)
Re: How do you prioritize your dc's subjects? What subjects are most likely to (M) - profmom 7:26 Jan 18 (1)
- P.S. m - profmom 7:37 Jan 18 (0)

Anyone's dc see their parent's corrections during teaching as personal criticism? - Pster 6:47 Jan 18 (8)

This happened to us, and school turned out to be a good thing in her case. - Sara R 12:27 Jan 18 (0)
We've gone through this with my oldest... - Narrow Gate Academy 12:27 Jan 18 (0)
I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing this! (m) - 3lilreds in NC 10:03 Jan 18 (0)
I think it's the age! more inside - Karie 8:56 Jan 18 (0)
Oh yes! (M) - one l michele 6:55 Jan 18 (3)
- What do you do if the effort isn't there? - Pster 7:07 Jan 18 (2)
  - Well, it's still a work in progress (M) - one l michele 8:02 Jan 18 (0)
  - Hang in there (m) - Julie in GA 7:37 Jan 18 (0)

At what grade did you start AP's Linguistic Poetry Memorization? - one l michele 6:41 Jan 18 (6)

2nd & pre-K here. nt. - Linda...inOwasso 13:50 Jan 18 (0)
preK, 2nd & 5th nt - dragons in the flower bed 7:36 Jan 18 (0)
1st and 3rd grade, I think. nt - WTMindy 7:22 Jan 18 (0)
FLL has a CD with their poems on it, fyi. - Trivium Academy 7:13 Jan 18 (2)
- He's gone through the FLL suggestions, and the CD was worth it. (M) - one l michele 7:53 Jan 18 (1)
  - I completely understand : ) nt - Trivium Academy 8:08 Jan 18 (0)

For those with 8th graders facing high school for the first time... - Nan in Mass 6:09 Jan 18 (7)

Hijacking, I have recently noticed my seventh graders writing improve by leaps and bounds... - Cheryl B in VA 9:56 Jan 18 (0)
Thanks for the encouragement! :o) nt - Jill, OK 9:31 Jan 18 (0)
I also want to thank you for this post... - awanama 8:41 Jan 18 (0)
This is so reassuring. I have a 7th grader who I am a little concerned about. Thanks for posting this. nt - KPM 6:45 Jan 18 (0)
((Nan)) thanks so much for taking the time to post these encouraging words - Chris in CA 6:14 Jan 18 (2)
- The switch-over took us quite a bit of time... - Nan in Mass 6:35 Jan 18 (1)
  - Thanks again, I'm planning on using a text next year - Chris in CA 11:13 Jan 18 (0)

R.E.A.L. Science earth and space - Grace 6:06 Jan 18 (0)

Anyone know of a unit study on DisneyWorld? - Pajama Mama 5:26 Jan 18 (4)

Could you use that other lap book as inspiration?... - karenciavo 6:06 Jan 18 (1)
- We are staying at a place called Give Kids the World through Make A Wish(m) - Pajama Mama 8:31 Jan 18 (0)
Re: Anyone know of a unit study on DisneyWorld? - Irene 5:51 Jan 18 (1)
- Thanks for the website-nt - Pajama Mama 8:24 Jan 18 (0)

Ambleside Online - does Year 4 mean 4th grade? thx nt - Alexandra 5:26 Jan 18 (2)

No...you place your child at a level... - mommyfaithe 5:33 Jan 18 (1)
- thanks! nt - Alexandra 7:14 Jan 18 (0)

book suggestion for 1620-1639 Jamestown/Native Americans - Mrs. Readsalot 5:09 Jan 18 (1)

Amazon also sells the book (nt) - Mrs. Readsalot 5:16 Jan 18 (0)

Errors in math-more practice with facts (all-not just mulitplication)... - Catherine 5:05 Jan 18 (0)

is there a *fun* multiplication card game, computer game, handheld game, etc...? We need help! (nt) - TMarie 1:51 Jan 18 (4)

My dds are enjoying Timez Attack. You can download it free. - Christy B 5:44 Jan 18 (0)
My dc love Quartermile Math. (m) - angela in ohio 4:28 Jan 18 (0)
Um, not really..... - Nick's Mama (Zack's Mama too) 4:24 Jan 18 (0)
We enjoyed Math War - Multiplication. - Night Elf 4:18 Jan 18 (0)

Rainbow science in a year? - ballzy 23:00 Jan 17 (1)

Re: Rainbow science in a year? - Linda (Australia) 3:22 Jan 18 (0)

Question about going to ChalkDust from TT... - Sparrows-Song 20:48 Jan 17 (1)

It's hard to determine without having the books in front of you, isn't it?... - Sophia 5:46 Jan 18 (0)

I have a brand new R&S Math 7 set that I would like to give away (m) - Julie in GA 20:28 Jan 17 (2)

I have a taker! (nt) - Julie in GA 7:23 Jan 18 (0)
I just emailed you, nt - Chris in CA 20:53 Jan 17 (0)

Can you purchase Simply State online anywhere? n/t - one l michele 19:59 Jan 17 (6)

Christian book - jg_puppy 20:33 Jan 17 (1)
- Thank you! nt - one l michele 20:48 Jan 17 (0)
Yes! link inside - Debra in CO 20:14 Jan 17 (3)
- But it says to mail the form and send a check? (M) - one l michele 20:29 Jan 17 (2)
  - Huh, sorry about that... I thought I purchased Simply Presidential straight from them online.. - Debra in CO 8:01 Jan 18 (1)
    - No problem, (M) - one l michele 9:35 Jan 18 (0)

I've got pics of my timeline. Come see! :) - AudreyTN 19:49 Jan 17 (9)

It looks fantastic. What a great idea to do it *that* way. nt - Verena 6:51 Jan 18 (0)
Lorna: m - AudreyTN 6:00 Jan 18 (0)
I LOVE this! - ShawneinFL 5:28 Jan 18 (2)
- Oh,and thank you! :) nt - AudreyTN 5:58 Jan 18 (0)
- Sure, I actually drew my labels. I guess I will draw them as we go. :) nt - AudreyTN 5:58 Jan 18 (0)
Did you draw this with ruler and compass? Pencil first and then bright ink? What kind of paper. Thanks nt - kalanamak 5:14 Jan 18 (1)
- I used a formula can lid... m - AudreyTN 5:56 Jan 18 (0)
Doesn't it feel great to accomplish something that has been hanging over your head!? I think your timeline looks marvelous! nt - King Alfred Academy 20:07 Jan 17 (1)
- Yes it does. And thank you very much! :) nt - AudreyTN 20:22 Jan 17 (0)

Trying again: What are you doing for 2nd grade writing? - amy 19:35 Jan 17 (12)

In 2nd grade... - Narrow Gate Academy 12:31 Jan 18 (0)
Righ now we are using Daily Guide books and BJU Writing . I want to try some new ideas. The PS are doing such a fabulous job in the area of writing I would like to learn some new strategies. We also do copywork and narration nt - stellar 10:08 Jan 18 (0)
We did little in 2nd gr.... - Verena 6:55 Jan 18 (0)
In 2nd gr., we did HWT daily, copywk ~2x/wk, nature journal 1-2x/wk... - Karen K. in Tx 6:33 Jan 18 (0)
Narration in history. Some writing in SWO C (usually descriptive) - Chris in VA 5:57 Jan 18 (0)
Copywork and narrations only nt. - Testimony 4:16 Jan 18 (0)
Hobbes does copywork once a week. In addition he does the comprehension exercises and creative writing from Junior English 1. (nt) - Laura in China - no my children are not really called Calvin and Hobbes 0:24 Jan 18 (0)
My dd is starting 2nd grade next week (m) - LindaOz 20:40 Jan 17 (0)
None, just HWT books and dictation. nt - siloam 20:26 Jan 17 (0)
Copywork 2x/wk, narration in history. We haven't formally started dictation. - Trivium Academy 20:24 Jan 17 (0)
No reason to feel guilty... - Sophia 19:49 Jan 17 (0)
Copy work, dictation, and narration only. - Tina in WA 19:49 Jan 17 (0)

Web-savvy folks--I need - Alana 19:31 Jan 17 (4)

Try Google Notebook (link inside) - AllSmiles 6:42 Jan 18 (0)
What about a blog? I'm pretty sure there's a way to set it to private. nt - AudreyTN 6:02 Jan 18 (0)
How about google docs..m - Patricia in WA 21:09 Jan 17 (1)
- Thanks. I can't seem to get it to upload a document.... - Alana 0:31 Jan 18 (0)

I'm seeing a little bit now of what the "wait until they're a little older for formal math" proponents were talking about. (more) - MamaPapa 19:27 Jan 17 (5)

I have wondered about this as well. sm - LisaL 12:59 Jan 18 (0)
Yes, but not with a particular program. - Night Elf 4:31 Jan 18 (0)
Yes. Never used RS though. - Lolly 2:09 Jan 18 (0)
Actually, that's something I've been thinking for quite a while as I read your posts... - OhElizabeth 20:18 Jan 17 (1)
- I can see how that could have happened, with our girls usually being ready to work (more) - MamaPapa 6:01 Jan 18 (0)

What's the deal with the Step 1 Readers? They're completely impossible for a new reader!... - chiguirre 19:14 Jan 17 (10)

I See Sam readers would be perfect for your ds ... - AngieW in Texas 16:26 Jan 18 (0)
I bought a used copy of Abeka's Handbook for Reading and some Abeka readers (cheap) (sm) - Nick's Mama (Zack's Mama too) 7:11 Jan 18 (0)
Thanks for the suggestions... - chiguirre 6:04 Jan 18 (0)
I had the same annoyance... - sandra Dumas 5:59 Jan 18 (0)
We started with the Bob books then worked up to Dr. Suess - no problems (nt) - Jason in NC 21:54 Jan 17 (0)
Teach a Child To Read With Children's Books has good suggestions - Kim W. 20:54 Jan 17 (1)
- Thanks for posting this! nt - Tonia 5:37 Jan 18 (0)
I found the same with my K'er (M) - one l michele 19:55 Jan 17 (1)
- You will find a lot of sight words (proportionally) in Level 1 Pathway readers, too, but here's how I did them - Chris in VA 6:02 Jan 18 (0)
Well, they are still limited in their vocab, but we did love the Go,Dog,Go type books. nt - Chris in VA 19:17 Jan 17 (0)

Differences in Sonlight Core 100 IG from last year to this year? - Jenileigh 18:56 Jan 17 (2)

I bought Core 100 right at the last minute before they switched to the new version ... - AngieW in Texas 16:28 Jan 18 (0)
If you don't get an answer here, try the "Dear Sonlight" forum at their web-site. - Rhonda in TX 6:53 Jan 18 (0)

Lisa in the UP of MI - about a young reader and SWR... - KIN 18:50 Jan 17 (1)

Thanks for your post! (sm) - Lisa in the UP of MI 11:50 Jan 18 (0)

Trying again: Anyone using Teaching the Classics? How does it incorporate into your day? Thanks! nt - KIN 18:45 Jan 17 (1)

Re: Trying again: Anyone using Teaching the Classics? How does it incorporate into your day? Thanks! nt - Linda (Australia) 3:24 Jan 18 (0)

Looking for a Colonial Period Unit Study.... - Heather in VA 18:23 Jan 17 (0)

WWYD - Free 4 years of TOG Classic - Cynthia in FL 18:19 Jan 17 (15)

I would use it. I have Classic and it makes perfect sense to me. : )....nt - Tami 20:18 Jan 17 (0)
WOW! You have a very nice friend indeed!!! sm - Lisawa 19:02 Jan 17 (3)
- Re: WOW! You have a very nice friend indeed!!! sm - Cynthia In FL 19:09 Jan 17 (2)
  - Hmmm...sm - Lisawa 19:23 Jan 17 (0)
  - This link will explain the differences between Classic and Redesign for you. - Trivium Academy 19:15 Jan 17 (0)
Isn't there a 50% off coupon for those who have classic? You could get redesigned 1/2 off. - Tarheel Heather 18:40 Jan 17 (0)
My opinion? The redesign has better teacher helps, and the classic has better book selections. (nt) - Rebecca in VA 18:34 Jan 17 (8)
- How so? Many of the books that were in Classic as primary reading are still there, they are listed as supplementary. Most books no longer included are out of print. nt - karenciavo 18:51 Jan 17 (7)
  - Well, I'm thinking particularly of the Upper Grammar selections... - Rebecca in VA 7:27 Jan 18 (6)
    - Can you describe what you disliked about the Young Explorers book? I have that in my Amazon (m) - Melora in NC 12:03 Jan 18 (1)
      - How the Bible Came to Us is much meater... - Rebecca in VA 16:18 Jan 18 (0)
    - Rod & Staff Bible History for Grades 5, 6, and 7. They begin at Creation... - Rebecca in VA 9:27 Jan 18 (2)
      - Oops, this answer is for Melissa. (nt) - Rebecca in VA 9:29 Jan 18 (1)
        
        Thanks Rebecca! I'll have to check out R&S's bible history curriculum...and I JUST threw my 6th grade R&S sample book away! That'll teach me... nt - Melissa in CA 18:27 Jan 18 (0)
    - What are you using for the UG bible if not the "...Young Explorers" primary selection? I'm not sure I am onboard with this book either, seems quite young for UG. nt - Melissa in CA 9:02 Jan 18 (0)

Anyone doing an Election Lapbook? esp. for older kids. - Heidi in CA 17:52 Jan 17 (3)

How did you like it? sm - lisawa 19:09 Jan 17 (1)
- I liked it but was hoping for something more this time... - Heidi in CA 23:02 Jan 17 (0)
If you like the Live and Learn one I think they have a older version for 7th and up. I haven't seen any others. nt - siloam 18:12 Jan 17 (0)

Just a little heads up on "Life of Fred" - Fay up North 17:37 Jan 17 (3)

Re: Just a little heads up on "Life of Fred" - Maureen Wittmann 5:32 Jan 18 (1)
- I have the 2002 copyright second printing and some of the questionable content has been changed. - Deece in MN 7:38 Jan 18 (0)
I believe this is in the 1st edition. The 2nd edition has been cleaned up. nt - Sue in St Pete 18:54 Jan 17 (0)

My dear K'er just came to me and asked (M) - one l michele 17:29 Jan 17 (1)

What a sweety. I'd take him to the bookstore and a craft store and let him pick out some fun workbooks and little project kits. nm - Stacy in NJ 17:36 Jan 17 (0)

FYI the 4th book of the History Lives Chronicles by Mindy and Brandon Withrow (Peril and Peace, Monks & Mystics, etc)... - Trivium Academy 17:12 Jan 17 (1)

A 5th book on the Modern Period is scheduled for this Fall. nt - Trivium Academy 17:13 Jan 17 (0)

Entering new phase, and back to the boards for continuing education. Need math sugg. now that we are done with Singapore 1-6. - StHarris 17:05 Jan 17 (7)

NEM 1 - Lorna 0:32 Jan 18 (0)
I've had two finish Singapore Primary Math ... - AngieW in Texas 19:05 Jan 17 (0)
We are doing NEM... - Nan in Mass 18:03 Jan 17 (0)
I'm sorry I can't answer more fully right now but I'm headed to bed! Anyway if your child is on the young side when finishing SM6 (mine is 10), then you might want to look at Russian Math 6! This is a great 'tween book and if you google these boards, you'll find lots of positive comments. nt - jeri 17:55 Jan 17 (0)
Loving VideoText Math here. nt - Heather in VA 17:51 Jan 17 (0)
After sending my oldest trhough Prec-Calc with various suppliers, my plan for my next is to start Chalkdust at either thier Basic Math or Pre-Alg when the time comes <nt> - Karen in CO 17:42 Jan 17 (1)
- I knew there would be some great new thing to consider. Thanks. - StHarris 17:56 Jan 17 (0)

Kimber - what are you plans for history during 5-6th grade if you will start the cycle over in 7th grade? nt - KIN 17:01 Jan 17 (5)

I'm not quite sure, but I think we'll just jump into where we fit in the cycle which would be... - Kimber 20:24 Jan 17 (0)
Oh, and why do you like Omnibus verses TOG for 7-12? I realized today... - KIN 17:03 Jan 17 (3)
- Well , TOG looks good enough to go all the way through, but - Kimber 20:01 Jan 17 (2)
  - FYI, O 4-6 are definitely a second run-through of the 3-year cycle, geared to high school students. (nt) - Julie in GA 20:12 Jan 17 (1)
    - Whenever I had to cram in college, I always went over my material - Kimber 20:20 Jan 17 (0)

Hands of a Child Sale! Starts This Friday!! - Tina in WA 17:01 Jan 17 (2)

wow, this is a great sale. Do they ever run sales like this in the spring or summer???nt - Johanna 19:32 Jan 17 (1)
- This is a 2nd chance sale from Black Friday... - Tina in WA 21:59 Jan 17 (0)

Laura in China, question for you regarding using Lightening Lit with a 5th grader - Karie 16:44 Jan 17 (6)

Thanks so much to both of you. I may just wait until 6th/7th grade. My ds is not an avid reader ! nt - Karie 4:25 Jan 18 (0)
Hello Karie (m) - Laura in China 23:55 Jan 17 (3)
- Would you recommend LL if your child has already read most of the book listed in it or would that take much of the fun out of it? nt - Lorna 0:20 Jan 18 (2)
  - Depends.... (m) - Laura in China 0:34 Jan 18 (1)
    - Thanks. This looks like a good literature programme but this fact was putting me off. nt - Lorna 2:07 Jan 18 (0)
Not Laura, but (m) - Stephanie not in TX 16:47 Jan 17 (0)

I need an online discussion guide (free!) for Black Beauty. I thought such a thing would be easy to find and left it to the last minute -- (m) - Melora in NC 16:40 Jan 17 (2)

Here's one. (m) - FloridaLisa 17:01 Jan 17 (1)
- Thank you! (nt) - Melora in NC 17:14 Jan 17 (0)

Looking for info on CW poetry, what age does this work for...more - Karie 15:45 Jan 17 (8)

Thanks for the replys. After reading your responses, here is my plan: - Karie 4:28 Jan 18 (1)
- Sounds like a good plan. :-) nt - profmom 6:07 Jan 18 (0)
I've only done it with boys so far, and found that 6th grade is a good time to start (nt) - Julie in GA 20:17 Jan 17 (0)
We finished week 2 today w/ 5th grade dd. It's going well! nt - profmom 17:10 Jan 17 (0)
I am using this with my 11 (12 soon) yr old, my 9 yr old, and my 6 yr old..... m - Patricia in WA 16:49 Jan 17 (0)
CW recommends 5th or 6th grade - HollyDay 16:47 Jan 17 (0)
I'm using it right now with an 8 year old... - Heather in VA 15:50 Jan 17 (1)
- I plan on adding it in for 1/2 year of poetry next year (9 and 10 year old) nt - Fay up North 16:08 Jan 17 (0)

Absolute must buy novels for for American History to 1800? Grammar and logic stages... - LNC 15:01 Jan 17 (1)

No ideas? I'll do my own research also. I just want to know your favorites :). nm - LNC 8:02 Jan 18 (0)

Looking for best, sturdy blank time line book you can recommend... - Charlotte (no longer in Spain) 14:43 Jan 17 (3)

I would LOVE to get the one from Homeschool in the Woods... - Tina in WA 17:36 Jan 17 (0)
We get each of ours The "Record of Time" by History Through the Ages. Though not necessary, the Timeline figures & Placement Guide book are very complimentary. They hold up well and make a beautiful keepsake. (nt) - Deborah 14:57 Jan 17 (0)
I need a couple for upper middle school age kids. Thanks. (nt) - Charlotte (no longer in Spain) 14:44 Jan 17 (0)

We loved CS Lewis teaching company course (for 13 year old). She listened... - Classic Mom 14:34 Jan 17 (2)

Gasp... *Ü* Thats great... I will have to go search the site...sm - Lisawa 19:05 Jan 17 (0)
My dd is in sixth. Would this be too young?? (m) - MelissaJ 16:49 Jan 17 (0)

How do you hyper link your blog inside your message? - Classic Mom 14:31 Jan 17 (5)

Inside your message you put <a href="www.luxetveritasacademy.org">What text you want seen</a> nt - Trivium Academy 15:15 Jan 17 (4)
- Well almost... put this <a href="http://www.luxetveritasacademy.org">Text you want seen</a> but - Trivium Academy 15:17 Jan 17 (3)
  - Thanks for the explanation. You all just ignore me, but I have to try. :-) - Patricia in WA 16:40 Jan 17 (2)
    - That did not work. I think I knwo what I did wrong.. - Patricia in WA 16:43 Jan 17 (1)
      - That worked! :-) But I think I will stick to the link feature at the bottom. Thanks for letting me play. nt - Patricia in WA 16:45 Jan 17 (0)

Piggyback to 7 year old question below: How does your 10 year old behave... - Classic Mom 14:30 Jan 17 (2)

Mine is a drama king, which is actually very amusing at times. - Tarheel Heather 18:38 Jan 17 (0)
Re: Piggyback to 7 year old question below: How does your 10 year old behave... - MelissaJ 16:55 Jan 17 (0)

Do you have to use ETC with something else or is it a stand alone phonics program? - Pster 13:50 Jan 17 (3)

I'm using Alpha Phonics with ETC... - Donna T. 16:52 Jan 17 (1)
- Ditto. Working great here! :) nt. - Linda...inOwasso 20:07 Jan 17 (0)
I used books 1-8 with sight word bingo from sonlight and letter tiles... - Nick's Mama (Zack's Mama too) 14:09 Jan 17 (0)

What do you use for 1st grade Language Arts? - paradise 12:34 Jan 17 (34)

A phonics primer, phonogram flashcards and games, and copywork.(nt) - Tami 5:39 Jan 18 (0)
RFH, ETC/ CLP Phonics, Lifepac LA, Rocket Reader Bible, and Pathway Readers... - sandra Dumas 16:29 Jan 17 (0)
Latin and copywork. (nt) - Plaid Dad 14:29 Jan 17 (3)
- what Latin do you use in 1st grade? m... - sandra Dumas 16:29 Jan 17 (2)
  - We're using Lively Latin, but...(m) - Plaid Dad 16:41 Jan 17 (1)
    - yes thank you that is what I think too..nt - sandra Dumas 17:01 Jan 17 (0)
1st grade Language Arts - Closeacademy 13:54 Jan 17 (0)
Re: What do you use for 1st grade Language Arts? - deeinfl 13:28 Jan 17 (0)
We like Growing with Grammar here. nt - MomToLGD 13:19 Jan 17 (0)
Writing Road to Reading. nt - Ellie 13:02 Jan 17 (0)
Ok...I will re-phrase the question: Do you use First Launguage Lessons for 1st/2nd grade OR - paradise 13:02 Jan 17 (17)
- I used FLL twice, too... - Karen K. in Tx 16:56 Jan 17 (0)
- It really depends on your child. My middle son did not need all the repetition. My second son does. We are using it with much success with him.nt - Patricia in WA 16:53 Jan 17 (3)
  - Patricia, what did you use with your middle son? nt - Trivium Academy 17:27 Jan 17 (2)
    - Nothing for 1st, started R&S 2 in 2nd. Not a huge success though...m - Patricia in WA 20:31 Jan 17 (1)
      - Thank you Patricia, not too wordy for me. ; ) nt - Trivium Academy 20:53 Jan 17 (0)
- LOVE FLL :-) nt - stellar 16:43 Jan 17 (0)
- We have used FLL 3 times and love it. Simple, short, and painless. (nt) - Nancy in SoCal 16:18 Jan 17 (0)
- I've used FLL twice now. m - profmom 14:56 Jan 17 (4)
  - Do you know that FLL4 is coming out? nt - Zelda 15:07 Jan 17 (3)
    - No... have you heard when? nt - profmom 15:30 Jan 17 (2)
      - They are hoping to have it ready for fall. nt - Zelda 17:17 Jan 17 (1)
        
        Thanks! nt - profmom 17:43 Jan 17 (0)
- I use FLL nt - Chadam 13:46 Jan 17 (0)
- I'm using FLL with my 1st & 2nd graders (m) - 3lilreds in NC 13:18 Jan 17 (3)
  - Having used other grammar pgms with my olders...I love FLL... - mom26 19:16 Jan 17 (0)
  - Having used other grammar pgms with my olders...I love FLL... - mom26 19:14 Jan 17 (0)
  - I'm using FLL for my K/1... - Zelda 13:46 Jan 17 (0)
Um - I think I am in the nothing really group too - Karen in CO 12:55 Jan 17 (0)
First grade fun: - Sweetpeach 12:54 Jan 17 (0)
I used Funnix, FLL, HWOT, and ETC and some Kumons workbooks. nm - Stacy in NJ 12:53 Jan 17 (1)
- I also used Bob Books, Dick and Jane readers, and the First Readers section of our library (Little Bear, Frog and Toad, Amelia Bedila, Henry and Mudge, Mr. Putter and Tabby) nm - Stacy in NJ 13:00 Jan 17 (0)
Umm, nothing really. My first grader just does a lot of reading, math, some copywork and...(M) - Sue G in PA 12:50 Jan 17 (0)
Re: What do you use for 1st grade Language Arts? - Canada_Mom 12:38 Jan 17 (0)

Has anyone used the seasonal handicraft kits from Hearts and Trees? - Dawn E 12:16 Jan 17 (2)

I bought the fall and winter one. Love them! (kids are 9 and 11) (nt) - Rhonda in TX 7:01 Jan 18 (0)
Re: Has anyone used the seasonal handicraft kits from Hearts and Trees? - Melissa H. in GA 18:15 Jan 17 (0)

Many thanks for the math help; a couple more questions regarding Saxon and Life of Fred (m) - Christy B 12:16 Jan 17 (0)

Whose blog is it that has the small states books? thanks - lori in tx 12:11 Jan 17 (3)

Was it this one? - genie 13:51 Jan 17 (2)
- Thank you for posting this - jg_puppy 12:33 Jan 18 (0)
- yep that was it thanks!! nt - lori in tx 15:54 Jan 17 (0)

PE questions? - Alice 12:10 Jan 17 (5)

Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll be trying some of these nt - Alice 6:16 Jan 18 (0)
I second the Rebounder!!! I actually enjoy this too and you can buy - sandra Dumas 17:03 Jan 17 (0)
Not a video but we love our indoor mini-trampoline/rebounder for energy-release. nt - Amy in MD 14:38 Jan 17 (0)

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